The second part of season 4 of Netflix’s Stranger Things premieres on July 1st with two super-sized final chapters. Episodes 8 and 9 will likely bring the various cast members back to Hawkins to help Eleven defeat the season’s Big Bad Vecna. It’s been a long wait for season 4 which, thanks to delays, dropped nearly 3 years after season 3. Hopefully audiences won’t have to wait as long for the show’s fifth and final season. Details of season 5 are under wraps, but series creators Ross and Matt Duffer aka the Duffer Brothers have teased that the season will include a time jump to 1987 or 1989.

But season five won’t be the last entry into the Stranger Things universe. Netflix and the Duffers are working on a spin-off series, which has yet to be formally announced. But the Duffers said that they likely wouldn’t start working on the spin-off until they wrap their efforts on season 5. In an interview with Variety, Ross Duffer said, “There’s a version of it developing in parallel [to season 5], but they would never shoot it parallel, … I think actually we’re going to start delving into that soon as we’re winding down and finishing these visual effects, Matt and I are going to start getting into it.”